Eagle26 Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 10 hours ago, Scouts Honor said: would love to see numbers on this. it may or may not be true... im not sure... I don’t have time to look up all the data… maybe @Wrestleknownothing has a chart for us ? But a quick search shows we are headed in the right direction https://uww.org/article/wrestling-enjoys-record-viewership-world-champs-108-athletes-qualify-spots-olympic-games https://uww.org/article/wrestling-scores-big-world-cships-706-percent-jump-engagements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkemaz Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 4 hours ago, billyhoyle said: It changes the relative value of takedown compared to an escape or reversal. It changes the value relative to everything including turns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bryant Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 So, what does the board think about Wade Schalles' 'a point scored is a point earned' philosophy?Wade champions this format but I don’t believe he came up with it. I’m behind most of what he suggests with some simplistic twists. Kyle and Andy broke down the results-based outcomes a few years ago on their On The Mat podcast. If “duals don’t matter” then what’s the harm in simply changing how the team score is totaled? 1 Insert catchy tagline here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, pokemonster said: Are people really having Super Bowl-esque watch parties for NCAA wrestling? Honestly, I gave up trying to watch it live due to how much of a pain in the ass it was. Ended up finding a YouTube channel that illegally posted the matches a couple of hours later. I was part of a contingent of about 25 people that reserved a couple tables to watch semis at a bar…. I know there were many others. Many a HS/Club programs do big watch parties. Edited April 22, 2023 by WrestlingRasta 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokemonster Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 5 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said: I was part of a contingent of about 25 people that reserved a couple tables to watch semis at a bar…. I know there were many others. Many a HS/Club programs do big watch parties. Sounds like a good time. Used to watch with the fam but being in the south these days, no chance of getting a group together like that. They call it "wrasslin". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenowa Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 17 hours ago, Mike Parrish said: So, what does the board think about Wade Schalles' 'a point scored is a point earned' philosophy? I prefer a compromise, where every point matters, utilizing a Margin of Victory formula, such that winning by 3 is worth a little more than winning by 1, and winning by 10 is worth a little more than a current major. Hoping it increases action, especially late in the match. Still 6 for a pin, 5 for a tech...but everything else is between 3.0 and 4.4, depending on your MOV (margin of victory). OT win only 3, while a win by 14 is 4.4 (and a win by 8 is 3.8 etc). We already use 1/2 points in tourney scoring, and with everything computerized, unsure why the fear of a decimal is so prevalent. Gymnastics, diving and others use decimals. One of the best benefits is essentially eliminating the dreaded dual meet tie-breaker. Other proposed option to increase scoring is making the base win only 2 points, adding the margin of victory (0.1 to 1.4) and also adding the points scored by the winner (0.1 up to a max of 1.5 for scoring 15 or more---keeping the range from 2.2 to 4.9). In this case, a 10-7 win is worth 3.3, while a 3-1 win is only 2.5. Rewards action. And would also prefer a forfeit being 7 or 8, but that is another debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bryant Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 I don’t hate an MOV style (we discussed on Mat Stats), but just no no no on decimals. That isn’t something I can ever come around on. 1 Insert catchy tagline here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Jason Bryant said: I don’t hate an MOV style (we discussed on Mat Stats), but just no no no on decimals. That isn’t something I can ever come around on. I have to agree. Scorers already routinely have difficulty with whole numbers. I can't imagine just how awful the update to the Trackwrestling software would end up being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formally140 Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Decimals is a no no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Pin=30 Tech=25 Dec=10+MOV … though a team with 3 wins by pin could win 90-77… but aren’t we looking to emphasize/reward scoring and pinning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Jason Bryant said: I don’t hate an MOV style (we discussed on Mat Stats), but just no no no on decimals. That isn’t something I can ever come around on. How do you feel about centimeters & millimeters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 2 hours ago, ionel said: How do you feel about centimeters & millimeters? Depends on what we're measuring... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, MPhillips said: Depends on what we're measuring... poll vault & long jump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 17 hours ago, pokemonster said: Sounds like a good time. Used to watch with the fam but being in the south these days, no chance of getting a group together like that. They call it "wrasslin". Yeah I hear ya. I’m in Florida. We’re trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenowa Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 15 hours ago, DJT said: Pin=30 Tech=25 Dec=10+MOV … though a team with 3 wins by pin could win 90-77… but aren’t we looking to emphasize/reward scoring and pinning? seems like a reasonable compromise to appease the decimalphobes. only concern is modifying those bulb scoreboards on the walls of so many gyms that can only handle a "1" in the hundreds place (guess they never counted on hoopsters hitting 200), so the HS dual that ends up 210 to 205 could be tough to display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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