scourge165 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, ionel said: Where was his 1st and 2nd D1 and where did he interview within 2 years to get a bump to stay at #2? As far as I understand it, Deion took the job to help build a HBU program, then there was some issue over his salaries(a dispute about his compensation as it was tied to some incentives). That was why he left for Colorado...or partially why. But coaches from revenue generating sports from the power 5 use interest from other schools to get pay bumps fairly regularly. Coaches have a good year or two and they get massive deals at a lot of the Power5. This leads to some absolutely terrible decisions by Athletic Departments. Quote Mel Tucker’s job leading Michigan State to a resurgent season made him one of the hottest coaches in the country and a potential target to poach. https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/11/mel-tuckers-massive-contract-extension-is-fully-guaranteed-with-buyout-unchanged.html It doesn't seem real common in Wrestling though. I can't recall a situation in which a coach has gone and visited another program offering him an extension just to use it as leverage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, scourge165 said: As far as I understand it, Deion took the job to help build a HBU program, then there was some issue over his salaries(a dispute about his compensation as it was tied to some incentives). That was why he left for Colorado...or partially why. But coaches from revenue generating sports from the power 5 use interest from other schools to get pay bumps fairly regularly. Coaches have a good year or two and they get massive deals at a lot of the Power5. This leads to some absolutely terrible decisions by Athletic Departments. https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/11/mel-tuckers-massive-contract-extension-is-fully-guaranteed-with-buyout-unchanged.html It doesn't seem real common in Wrestling though. I can't recall a situation in which a coach has gone and visited another program offering him an extension just to use it as leverage... I will bet 200 PC (pastry coin) that Koll isn't doing this for a salary bump. If he were (only 2 yr post big promises) it'd be a good sign to both AD's that you are not seriously trying to save & elevate the wrestling program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formally140 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, scourge165 said: As far as I understand it, Deion took the job to help build a HBU program, then there was some issue over his salaries(a dispute about his compensation as it was tied to some incentives). That was why he left for Colorado...or partially why. But coaches from revenue generating sports from the power 5 use interest from other schools to get pay bumps fairly regularly. Coaches have a good year or two and they get massive deals at a lot of the Power5. This leads to some absolutely terrible decisions by Athletic Departments. https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/11/mel-tuckers-massive-contract-extension-is-fully-guaranteed-with-buyout-unchanged.html It doesn't seem real common in Wrestling though. I can't recall a situation in which a coach has gone and visited another program offering him an extension just to use it as leverage... The reason it wasn’t common is because wrestling isn’t a big kid sport compared to bb and fb.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 I will bet 200 PC (pastry coin) that Koll isn't doing this for a salary bump. If he were (only 2 yr post big promises) it'd be a good sign to both AD's that you are not seriously trying to save & elevate the wrestling program.You’re betting 200 PC that Koll is doing … what?Do we have any evidence that Koll did anything at all? Someone see him the airport? See him at OU? Anything beyond what Minnow claims?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H82Lose Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 8 hours ago, Le duke said: You’re betting 200 PC that Koll is doing … what? Do we have any evidence that Koll did anything at all? Someone see him the airport? See him at OU? Anything beyond what Minnow claims? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yes, was on campus. I am told he will be announced soon, before the 15th because that is the wrestling banquet. I am curious if he completely blows the staff up, or keeps Ware or Sam. NO WAY, they keep Heflin IMO. I have heard Teyon is pissed, and he feels he is gone. I hate to say this, because I like TW ALOT, but that might be a little Karma on how things ended at WY. Then again, my sources could SUCK and I could look like a fool. I have better sources on this deal than that cuck Minnow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 hour ago, flyingcement said: so ... not just the minnow smoke'n sump'n. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 59 minutes ago, ionel said: so ... not just the minnow smoke'n sump'n. Yes that and I was proud to share a tweet which contained the word concrete 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, flyingcement said: Yes that and I was proud to share a tweet which contained the word concrete Good one there, I missed that, the concrete flew right over my head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 If Koll departs to OU, do you guys think some of Stanfords elite recruits open their recruitment? Some big names like Aden Valencia ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 On 4/9/2023 at 5:11 AM, H82Lose said: Yes, was on campus. I am told he will be announced soon, before the 15th because that is the wrestling banquet. I am curious if he completely blows the staff up, or keeps Ware or Sam. NO WAY, they keep Heflin IMO. I have heard Teyon is pissed, and he feels he is gone. I hate to say this, because I like TW ALOT, but that might be a little Karma on how things ended at WY. Then again, my sources could SUCK and I could look like a fool. I have better sources on this deal than that cuck Minnow TW did nothing wrong in Wyoming. Karma or not, 50/50 he gets forced out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Stankowski Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 38 minutes ago, Plasmodium said: TW did nothing wrong in Wyoming. Karma or not, 50/50 he gets forced out. Wyoming is a train wreck and is headed the wrong way, It is going to take a lot to right this ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) On 4/9/2023 at 8:32 AM, flyingcement said: Edited April 10, 2023 by Le duke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRef Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 I don't think many Okies would like to have a Spates mini me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted April 10, 2023 Author Share Posted April 10, 2023 https://www.oklahoman.com/story/sports/college/sooners/2023/04/07/ou-wrestling-fall-isnt-tied-to-now-departed-coach-lou-rosselli/70091662007/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Le duke said: so he did it for a salary bump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scourge165 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) On 4/9/2023 at 12:44 PM, Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan said: If Koll departs to OU, do you guys think some of Stanfords elite recruits open their recruitment? Some big names like Aden Valencia ? They almost always do. And this would be devastating for Stanford Wrestling. Edit- Probably a good idea to read through the thread before commenting. Now, OU potential candidates. Maybe a younger guy? Andrew Howe, both an alum and the type of guy I think could be a very good HC. I don't know what he's doing now, just that he lost his job because he refused to get the vaccine. Edited April 10, 2023 by scourge165 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunaticfringe Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Chris Bono did the game with SDSU. He interviewed and got bumped and did it again with Wisconsin and the AD told him, no more raises. You either want to be here or you don’t. Good choice to move on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpeltf Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, 1032004 said: so he did it for a salary bump? Imagine that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 4 hours ago, 1032004 said: so he did it for a salary bump? Very clever! Similarly, I think John Smith has been quiet quitting over at Okie State. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 They all lose money. I can't figure out the reasoning behind paying these folks so much money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Plasmodium said: They all lose money. I can't figure out the reasoning behind paying these folks so much money. Of course you're right - but because I enjoy the product, I am not too bothered. I was wondering something actually whether there is any cultural preservation society that could come to the aid of folkstyle wrestling in the ways of funding. On the basis of this being a distinctly American style of sport which is on the decline and may otherwise go extinct. Many prominent US presidents wrestled. It's a matter of culture! /half joking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 There are many buildings preserved because they are of historical significance. Why not a sport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Plasmodium said: They all lose money. I can't figure out the reasoning behind paying these folks so much money. Not sure about Oklahoma, but isn’t Stanford’s team largely being supported by donors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, flyingcement said: There are many buildings preserved because they are of historical significance. Why not a sport? Very good point and the oldest sport so ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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