Zahnarzt Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Best NCAA wrestlers to ever wrestle their particular weight class (assuming each can only be named once even if they wrestled multiple weight classes). And I’m including only the current weight classes (would be interesting to make a list of previous weights as well). 125 - Spencer Lee 133 - Logan Steiber 141 - Zain Retherford 149 - Yianni Diakamaholis 157 - Kyle Dake 165 - David Taylor 174 - Carter Starocci 184 - Aaron Brooks 197 - Cael Sanderson 285 - Gable Steveson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYou Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Hmmmmm ? Youngster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, RYou said: Hmmmmm ? Youngster new to the sport ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Edited March 29, 2023 by ionel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu_alum Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Zahnarzt said: And I’m including only the current weight classes (would be interesting to make a list of previous weights as well). It's not that difficult to blend-in the weight classes prior to the 1998 seven-pound increase (1970-1998). Or, if you're adventurous, include the eras prior to 1970. This covers you back to 1952, when ten weight classes were introduced. 115/115/118/125 123/123/126/133 130/130/134/141 137/137/142/149 147/145/150/157 157/152/158/165 167/167/167/174 177/177/177/184 191/191/190/197 UNL/UNL/HWT/285 Edited March 29, 2023 by lu_alum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 25 minutes ago, lu_alum said: It's not that difficult to blend-in the weight classes prior to the 1998 seven-pound increase (1970-1998). Or, if you're adventurous, include the eras prior to 1970. This covers you back to 1952, when ten weight classes were introduced. 115/115/118/125 123/123/126/133 130/130/134/141 137/137/142/149 147/145/150/157 157/152/158/165 167/167/167/174 177/177/177/184 191/191/190/197 UNL/UNL/HWT/285 If you want to get overly precise, I think it goes like this: 2 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbane Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Zahnarzt said: 125 - Spencer Lee 133 - Logan Steiber 141 - Zain Retherford 149 - Yianni Diakamaholis 157 - Kyle Dake 165 - David Taylor 174 - Carter Starocci 184 - Aaron Brooks 197 - Cael Sanderson 285 - Gable Steveson Would it not make more sense to swap Retherford and Diakomihalis? Retherford was 5th in his lone season at 141 and a 3x champ 2x hodge winner at 149. Meanwhile Diakomihalis has two chips at each weight. Also should JB be there at either 157 or 165? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu_alum Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 56 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: If you want to get overly precise, I think it goes like this: True. But I was staying within the current framework of ten weight classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Burns Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Modern weight class parade of hammers 125 Spencer Lee 133 Logan Stieber 141 Kyle Dake 149 Zain Retherford 157 Jason Nolf 165 Alex Deirhringer 174 Ed Ruth 184 Cael Sanderson 197 Bo Nikal 285 Gable Stevenson 9 of the 10 have Hodge trophies. The lone exception has 2 losses and a medical forfeit in 4 seasons. Recency bias? Sure. The weights help dictate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, Matthew Burns said: Modern weight class parade of hammers 125 Spencer Lee 133 Logan Stieber 141 Kyle Dake 149 Zain Retherford 157 Jason Nolf 165 Alex Deirhringer 174 Ed Ruth 184 Cael Sanderson 197 Bo Nikal 285 Gable Stevenson 9 of the 10 have Hodge trophies. The lone exception has 2 losses and a medical forfeit in 4 seasons. Recency bias? Sure. The weights help dictate that. If you are gonna put Dake at 141 might as well put DT at 165 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Matthew Burns said: Modern weight class parade of hammers 125 Spencer Lee 133 Logan Stieber 141 Kyle Dake 149 Zain Retherford 157 Jason Nolf 165 Alex Deirhringer 174 Ed Ruth 184 Cael Sanderson 197 Bo Nikal 285 Gable Stevenson 9 of the 10 have Hodge trophies. The lone exception has 2 losses and a medical forfeit in 4 seasons. Recency bias? Sure. The weights help dictate that. When did Nolf, Dieringer and Ruth win Hodges? Edited March 29, 2023 by Jimmy Cinnabon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scourge165 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: When did Nolf, Dieringer and Ruth win Hodges? Dieringer won in 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYou Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 8 hours ago, Matthew Burns said: Modern weight class parade of hammers 125 Spencer Lee 133 Logan Stieber 141 Kyle Dake 149 Zain Retherford 157 Jason Nolf 165 Alex Deirhringer 174 Ed Ruth 184 Cael Sanderson 197 Bo Nikal 285 Gable Stevenson 9 of the 10 have Hodge trophies. The lone exception has 2 losses and a medical forfeit in 4 seasons. Recency bias? Sure. The weights help dictate that. 174 Ben Askren - 2x Hodge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 7 hours ago, scourge165 said: Dieringer won in 2016 Thanks. And when did Nolf and Ruth win their Hodges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu1979 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 125 - S Abas 133 - Yojiro Uetake 141 - Logan S 149 - Yianni 157 - Pat Smith 165 - Kyle Dake 174 - Mark Schultz 184 - Cael 197 - Ed Banach Hvwt - Gable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu1979 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 After further thought I will change 157 to Lee Kemp 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCMO2 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 2 hours ago, RYou said: 174 Ben Askren - 2x Hodge Sincerely. Brooks and Ruth ahead of Askren? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Burns Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Thanks. And when did Nolf and Ruth win their Hodges? Should read "8 of 10". I have old eyes and fat fingers. Nolph and Ruth didn't win Hodges. I realize I left Taylor off. Simply my preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Sincerely. Brooks and Ruth ahead of Askren? Yeah.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 If we are talking about these guys at their apex here are a few more that should be considered: John Smith (wrestled 134 in college so would slot into the 141 spot currently), Tom Brands (wrestled 134 in college so would slot into the 141 spot currently), Dan Gable (wrestled 137 so would slot into the 141 or 149 spot) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestej Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 50 minutes ago, Le duke said: Yeah. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 91 pins. Enough said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 91 pins. Enough said.He’d get beaten soundly by Ed Ruth.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestej Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, Le duke said: He’d get beaten soundly by Ed Ruth. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 91 In a third rate conference with plenty of bums from the Southwest Missouri State Open sprinkled in there.He also lost to Pendleton what, 6 times? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Le duke said: In a third rate conference with plenty of bums from the Southwest Missouri State Open sprinkled in there. He also lost to Pendleton what, 6 times? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk When DT and Ruth wrestled it showed me that Ruth couldn't handle elite scrambling. Askren would wipe the floor with him. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Energy Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Burroughs not being on your lists = nonsense. World gold coming out of senior year and kept Dake and Taylor off the national team shortly after. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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