CHROMEBIRD Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Is he a BJJ guy or what? He likes to go across the throat with his forearm with double boots if possible. Not a claw ride. Phillippi looked like he was getting choked out in their match today. Byrd seemed to have a big problem with Nagao going across the windpipe at Big Tens and I believe he tried the same thing on RBY too. If I'm in coaching in the opposite corner, you bet I would be yelling at the ref to watch Nagao's chokeholds. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skandar Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Must not be very good at it. None of his opponents have passed out or complained about it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scourge165 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said: Is he a BJJ guy or what? He likes to go across the throat with his forearm with double boots if possible. Not a claw ride. Phillippi looked like he was getting choked out in their match today. Byrd seemed to have a big problem with Nagao going across the windpipe at Big Tens and I believe he tried the same thing on RBY too. If I'm in coaching in the opposite corner, you bet I would be yelling at the ref to watch Nagao's chokeholds. Yeah...he's tough on top. Cutting off oxygen and blood to the brain certainly helps.... I agree, I'd talk to the refs before the match and be on them during. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, skandar said: Must not be very good at it. None of his opponents have passed out or complained about it It looked like Lucas Byrd had a problem with it at Big Tens, despite being a big after match talker. The thing about going across the neck is you can apply it briefly, repeatedly and it can take a toll... but opponents can't really argue a strong case unless they actually pass out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 minute ago, skandar said: Must not be very good at it. None of his opponents have passed out or complained about it Counting cards gives a person a slight advantage. That's the kind of advantage that could ruin a casino's night. I think that restricting somebody's oxygen intake is at least a slight advantage. I call him the "Gopher Choker." If he doesn't stop, the name, or an even better one, will stick. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. PeanutButter Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Definitely got this impression on him after I watched him perform what looked like a cross face... to the neck of RBY 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 Just now, Mr. PeanutButter said: Definitely got this impression on him after I watched him perform what looked like a cross face... to the neck of RBY Right 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 vs. Garrett Moll (UNI) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 This isn't news, he has been known for his "cross throat" since high school. Here's his first move at state after taking his opponent down. Nagao needs to cut out the dirty wrestling, he's better than that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skandar Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 This isn’t high school. You’re allowed to go across the neck. Please reference the East Lansing Strangler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skandar Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said: This isn't news, he has been known for his "cross throat" since high school. Here's his first move at state after taking his opponent down. Nagao needs to cut out the dirty wrestling, he's better than that. He’s literally grabbing the kids shoulder cap and his elbow is straight across. No pressure on the throat at all. There’s nothing dirty about this. None of your pictures show anything illegal. Edited March 17, 2023 by skandar 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scourge165 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, skandar said: He’s literally grabbing the kids shoulder cap and his elbow is straight across. No pressure on the throat at all. There’s nothing dirty about this. None of your pictures show anything illegal. There's no pressure on the throat at all? How on EARTH would you possibly know that? Because he's on the shoulder? Please, he's directly across the throat. I can't tell from this ONE picture if he's choking him or how much pressure is being applied, but your arguments are comical. 25 minutes ago, skandar said: Must not be very good at it. None of his opponents have passed out or complained about it Not having choked someone out="Must not be very good at it?" Or...it's his bread and butter, but he's smart enough to not choke someone out with it or it'll become the focus of every match he wrestles. 7 minutes ago, skandar said: None of your pictures show anything illegal. Not sure the OP said just coming across the throat is illegal. I'm pretty sure he simply pointed out he...chokes the hell out of people and that if HE were coaching his opponent, he'd be on the ref to make them aware. It was pretty plainly stated and clearly true...and he didn't say it was illegal. Maybe(probably) dirty though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scourge165 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, ILLINIWrestlingBlog said: Counting cards gives a person a slight advantage. That's the kind of advantage that could ruin a casino's night. I think that restricting somebody's oxygen intake is at least a slight advantage. I call him the "Gopher Choker." If he doesn't stop, the name, or an even better one, will stick. Yeah, you have both legs in(which he's very good at) and you keep changing it up and you just spend a few seconds on the neck 3-4 times, you're really gassing a kid out. Oxygen intake is...fairly important in Wrestling. It's been a few years, but I seem remember that being an emphasis. Otherwise most of us ran a few thousand miles for no good reason! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skandar Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 lol I get it. You two have a vendetta. He beat your boy. Sorry he did it legally ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scourge165 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 minute ago, skandar said: lol I get it. You two have a vendetta. He beat your boy. Sorry he did it legally ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Yup! I'm a big Bucknell/Pitt fan! THAT is my issue with it! I don't have the objectivity that Minnesota fans have! And dude, take a Xanax! AGAIN, nobody said it was illegal. Just that he applies pressure to the throat...and that it's dirty. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skandar Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, scourge165 said: There's no pressure on the throat at all? How on EARTH would you possibly know that? Because he's on the shoulder? Please, he's directly across the throat. I can't tell from this ONE picture if he's choking him or how much pressure is being applied, but your arguments are comical. Not having choked someone out="Must not be very good at it?" Or...it's his bread and butter, but he's smart enough to not choke someone out with it or it'll become the focus of every match he wrestles. Not sure the OP said just coming across the throat is illegal. I'm pretty sure he simply pointed out he...chokes the hell out of people and that if HE were coaching his opponent, he'd be on the ref to make them aware. It was pretty plainly stated and clearly true...and he didn't say it was illegal. Maybe(probably) dirty though. Lol go grab your buddy’s shoulder cap just like that and keep your arm straight like the picture. That’s literally not a chokehold. It doesn’t restrict any oxygen or blood. Are you new to wrestling? This isn’t anything new. People have been doing this for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, skandar said: lol I get it. You two have a vendetta. He beat your boy. Sorry he did it legally ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Lol he's never wrestled "my boy" but nice deflection 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skandar Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 minute ago, scourge165 said: And dude, take a Xanax! AGAIN, nobody said it was illegal. Just that he applies pressure to the throat...and that it's dirty. Then why would OP go to the refs? It’s not illegal but it’s “dirty” ooook lmao. This is D1 wrestling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skandar Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Soft af 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scourge165 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Just now, skandar said: Lol go grab your buddy’s shoulder cap just like that and keep your arm straight like the picture. That’s literally not a chokehold. It doesn’t restrict any oxygen or blood. Are you new to wrestling? This isn’t anything new. People have been doing this for decades. Dude...seriously? A claw ride is one thing...where the elbow is bent. But you're telling me that because you're on the shoulder, you can't be on the throat also? And you're asking if I'M new to Wrestling! Alright...not my hill! I'll hand it back to Chrome or all the other people who are...apparently making this up and don't know Wrestling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skandar Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Just now, scourge165 said: Dude...seriously? A claw ride is one thing...where the elbow is bent. But you're telling me that because you're on the shoulder, you can't be on the throat also? And you're asking if I'M new to Wrestling! Alright...not my hill! I'll hand it back to Chrome or all the other people who are...apparently making this up and don't know Wrestling! Yes you moron. The shoulder cap is not in line with the throat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scourge165 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 minute ago, skandar said: Then why would OP go to the refs? It’s not illegal but it’s “dirty” ooook lmao. And you're asking if I'M new to Wrestling! It may not be an illegal move, but the ref can certainly call it potentially dangerous or just stop it. 3 minutes ago, skandar said: This is D1 wrestling. Yes...you are correct. WRESTLING. Not MMA. So we should probably try and refrain from...ya know, the choking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scourge165 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, skandar said: Yes you moron. The shoulder cap is not in line with the throat. Yes...it's not "in line" with the throat when you're coming from behind and reaching around! Plenty of guys use a claw ride. Seems like everyone else notices ONE guy in particular who chokes the hell out of people. You're getting a little worked up here bud. You're going to be at your own oxygen deficit if you don't relax a bit! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 Claw ride goes under the near arm. I had to look up whether Nagao could run into Byrd if they lose in the quarters tomorrow and it doesn't look very likely. It might have been a fun match. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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