fishbane Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Has anyone ever accomplished the unique achievement of sending the season in the R12 at NCAAs 4x? Two wrestlers could get it done this season. Micky Phillippi RS-Med/Transfer inelligible-R12-COVID-R12-R12-? Max Murin RS-R12-COVID-R12-R12-? This year Phillippi is the 9 seed with a crazy difficult draw to the semis Teske, Nagao/Henson, RBY. Meanwhile Murin is the 8 seed in a similar position. He has Burgos in the first round, but Milner is his likely 2nd round opponent. Milner beat him last year in the R12 8-1 en route to a 6th place finish. Should he get past Milner he will likely face Yianni D. in the quarters. Do you think either of these guys make it 4x R12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbrog Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 I think Jake Sufflohn (sp?) from Nebraska was...maybe?? I think for sure he was a 4x qualifier but never AA'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbane Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, Bigbrog said: I think Jake Sufflohn (sp?) from Nebraska was...maybe?? I think for sure he was a 4x qualifier but never AA'd. I think he wasn't that close. He went 1-2 as a freshman-R12-R16-Medical-R12. Only a 2xer R12. I thought David Terao was going to this ignominy as a senior when he spoiled it with a 4th place finish, but I misremembered. He was 1-2,R12,R12,4th. Mark McKnight was also somewhat close. R12-R12-Transfer/redshirt-R16-4th and that 4th place finish, like Terao's, was somewhat of an unexpected run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbane Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 Cash Wilcke was somewhat close. RS-R12-R12-R16-Covid. Covid didn't really cost him anything as he was beat out by Assad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11986 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 George DiCamillo from UVA was Rd of 12 3x before losing to Heil in 141 finals in 2017. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 George DiCamillo was a 3x R12 before breaking through and making the finals as the 6 seed losing to Heil …it was a very underrated bracket that had National champ Ashnault as well as ncaa finalists Eierman , McKenna, Ronnie Perry, and Meredith and multiple time AAs and yearly top 5 guys Kevin Jack ,Kolodzik and Luke pletcher who was screwed out of his finals chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerfan Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Pat Pitsch ASU 165 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbane Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tigerfan said: Pat Pitsch ASU 165 He is probably the closest so far. He was R16 as a freshman in 2005. R16-R12-R12-R12. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker118 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Artelona from Penn is a 2x round of 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goheels1812 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Quaker118 said: Artelona from Penn is a 2x round of 12 Filled out my brackets today and I have him R12 again this year. If he loses in the first round to Jacques (which I have happening) and all seeds hold, his blood round match would be Franek. If he beats Jacque then loses to AOC, his blood round is most likely one of Lewan/Scott/Cardenas. Tough draw for him to break through this year. Edited March 9, 2023 by goheels1812 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11986 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 3 hours ago, fishbane said: Has anyone ever accomplished the unique achievement of sending the season in the R12 at NCAAs 4x? Two wrestlers could get it done this season. Micky Phillippi RS-Med/Transfer inelligible-R12-COVID-R12-R12-? Max Murin RS-R12-COVID-R12-R12-? This year Phillippi is the 9 seed with a crazy difficult draw to the semis Teske, Nagao/Henson, RBY. Meanwhile Murin is the 8 seed in a similar position. He has Burgos in the first round, but Milner is his likely 2nd round opponent. Milner beat him last year in the R12 8-1 en route to a 6th place finish. Should he get past Milner he will likely face Yianni D. in the quarters. Do you think either of these guys make it 4x R12? Fwiw rooting for them both. What the heck I’ll say one of them does AA this year….lean Murin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu_alum Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Dave Kennedy, Bloomsburg 126: 1986 - Redshirt behind Rocky Bonomo 1987 - Stuck behind Rocky Bonomo 1988 (#11 seed) - R12, lost to John Epperly (Lehigh) 1989 (#7 seed) - R12, lost to John Epperly 1990 (#4 seed) - R12, lost to Adam DiSabato (Ohio State) Career record 109-28-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Josh humphreys has been R12 in his 2 trips to the tournament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu_alum Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said: Josh humphreys has been R12 in his 2 trips to the tournament Yes. 2019: Lost R12 to Ryan Deakon 2020: COVID (seeded #7) 2021: Rehab/Injury Year (knee) 2022: Last year was particularly heartbreaking. He beat Peyton Robb (8-5) in the R16, lost to Deakin in the QF, and hit AOC in R12. Had AOC beat with < 10s to go and had a mental lapse that resulted in AOC getting a late TD to win by 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 42 minutes ago, lu_alum said: Dave Kennedy, Bloomsburg 126: 1986 - Redshirt behind Rocky Bonomo 1987 - Stuck behind Rocky Bonomo 1988 (#11 seed) - R12, lost to John Epperly (Lehigh) 1989 (#7 seed) - R12, lost to John Epperly 1990 (#4 seed) - R12, lost to Adam DiSabato (Ohio State) Career record 109-28-4 Rocky was one of my college coaches..funny dude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbane Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 Below is a summary of some multiple R12 wrestlers. Missouri seems to excel in this category. They have 10 qualifiers this year with 6 R12 finishes by 5 wrestlers. 4xers None? 3xers Micky Phillippi RS-RS-R12-NQ/COVID-R12-R12-NQ/going for 4 Max Murin RS-R12-NQ/COVID-R12-R12-NQ/going for 4 Pat Pitsch RS-R16-R12-R12-R12 Dave Kennedy RS-Backup-R12-R12-R12 George DiCamillo R12-RS-R12-R12-2nd Taylor Venz RS-4th-R12-NQ/COVID-R12-R12 2xers Anthony Artalona R12-Backup/COVID-COVID/Ivy-R12-NQ/going for 3 Josh Humphreys R12-NQ/COVID-Inj-R12-NQ/going for 3 Jared Franek RS-NQ/COVID-R12-R12-NQ/going for 3 Zach Elam R12-RS-R16-R12-NQ/going for 3 Jake Sueflohn NQ-R12-R16-Med RS-R12 Cash Wilcke RS-R12-R12-R16-Backup/COVID Mark McKnight R12-R12-RS/Transfer-R16-4th David Terao RS-NQ-R12-R12-4th Dan Valimont RS-R12-3rd-R12-2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice of the Quakers Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 16 hours ago, fishbane said: Below is a summary of some multiple R12 wrestlers. Missouri seems to excel in this category. They have 10 qualifiers this year with 6 R12 finishes by 5 wrestlers. 4xers None? 3xers Micky Phillippi RS-RS-R12-NQ/COVID-R12-R12-NQ/going for 4 Max Murin RS-R12-NQ/COVID-R12-R12-NQ/going for 4 Pat Pitsch RS-R16-R12-R12-R12 Dave Kennedy RS-Backup-R12-R12-R12 George DiCamillo R12-RS-R12-R12-2nd Taylor Venz RS-4th-R12-NQ/COVID-R12-R12 2xers Anthony Artalona R12-Injured-COVID/Ivy-R12-NQ/going for 3 Josh Humphreys R12-NQ/COVID-Inj-R12-NQ/going for 3 Jared Franek RS-NQ/COVID-R12-R12-NQ/going for 3 Zach Elam R12-RS-R16-R12-NQ/going for 3 Jake Sueflohn NQ-R12-R16-Med RS-R12 Cash Wilcke RS-R12-R12-R16-Backup/COVID Mark McKnight R12-R12-RS/Transfer-R16-4th David Terao RS-NQ-R12-R12-4th Dan Valimont RS-R12-3rd-R12-2nd Fixed the note on Artalona. Dan McDonald, Penn '93 danmc167@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbane Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 28 minutes ago, Voice of the Quakers said: Fixed the note on Artalona. Artalona was injured mid season in 2019-2020? It looks like he wrestled in two duals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11986 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 17 hours ago, fishbane said: 2xers Anthony Artalona R12-Backup/COVID-COVID/Ivy-R12-NQ/going for 3 Josh Humphreys R12-NQ/COVID-Inj-R12-NQ/going for 3 Jared Franek RS-NQ/COVID-R12-R12-NQ/going for 3 Zach Elam R12-RS-R16-R12-NQ/going for 3 Jake Sueflohn NQ-R12-R16-Med RS-R12 Cash Wilcke RS-R12-R12-R16-Backup/COVID Mark McKnight R12-R12-RS/Transfer-R16-4th David Terao RS-NQ-R12-R12-4th Dan Valimont RS-R12-3rd-R12-2nd Bet there's a fairly substantial number of guys who have been R12 twice. Two that come to mind quickly are Scott Justus from Va Tech and Jeff Peanut Bowyer from JMU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice of the Quakers Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 29 minutes ago, fishbane said: Artalona was injured mid season in 2019-2020? It looks like he wrestled in two duals. https://pennathletics.com/news/2020/3/4/wrestlings-artalona-sidelined-for-remainder-of-2019-20-season.aspx 1 Dan McDonald, Penn '93 danmc167@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbane Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 33 minutes ago, 11986 said: Bet there's a fairly substantial number of guys who have been R12 twice. Two that come to mind quickly are Scott Justus from Va Tech and Jeff Peanut Bowyer from JMU. I had thought of Justus the other day for this. Looked it up and he was RS-NQ-R12-NQ-R12 so he was only a 2x R12. His RS Junior year he was the #1 seed and went 1-2. Both times he lost in the R12 he lost to the eventual 8th place finisher. Another 184lbs from that era Nate Patrick of Illinois was also a 2x R12 finisher. One year he was Big Tens and was seeded as high as #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11986 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, fishbane said: I had thought of Justus the other day for this. Looked it up and he was RS-NQ-R12-NQ-R12 so he was only a 2x R12. His RS Junior year he was the #1 seed and went 1-2. Both times he lost in the R12 he lost to the eventual 8th place finisher. Another 184lbs from that era Nate Patrick of Illinois was also a 2x R12 finisher. One year he was Big Tens and was seeded as high as #2. I think Bowyer was non qualifier/qualifier/R12/R12. I know his senior year he lost in 2nd round to Bonomo who would win his 3rd title that tournament, and then in blood round lost to Palacio who had been runner-up to Bonomo the year before. Edited March 10, 2023 by 11986 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbane Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 minute ago, 11986 said: I think Bowyer was non qualifier/qualifier/R12/R12. I know his senior year he lost in quarters to Bonomo who would win his 3rd title that tournament and then in blood round lost to Palacio who had been runner-up to Bonomo the year before. Yeah that's essentially what I found looking at old brackets. JMU having dropped their program doesn't have much in the way of records available on the internet. He was R12 his last two years. His sophomore year he lost in an early round and there was not full wrestle backs. The fact that there were not full consolations for a large period of time and that freshman couldn't compete for a different somewhat earlier large period of time probably means that if there ever was a R12 4xer that individual probably wrestled in the past 30 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu_alum Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Has anyone ever conducted a study to ID the guys who never made AA (top six) between 1963-1978, but made the R8 multiple times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Sounds like a job for WrestleKnowNothing!! mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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