peanut Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) Who's the best true freshman of 2023? Some options: Jesse Mendez (14-6) Caleb Henson (21-3) Levi Haines (23-1) Daniel Cardenas (22-1) Edited March 8, 2023 by peanut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, peanut said: Who's the best true freshman of 2023? Some options: Jesse Mendez (14-6) Caleb Henson (21-3) Levi Haines (23-1) Daniel Cardenas (22-1) It has to be Haines after he knocked off the consensus #1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Cardenas make any noise at NCAAs? 22-1 but only has one quality win over Gfeller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedFan Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bobby said: Cardenas make any noise at NCAAs? 22-1 but only has one quality win over Gfeller. 18-1 and four of those wins were over Stanford wrestlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 26 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: It has to be Haines after he knocked off the consensus #1 1. Haines 2. Henson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creek chub Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 At this point, I think it has to be Haines. Henson is a beast with quality wins over Sasso and Milner but Haines’ resume is a little better. That could change next week though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocBB Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) Calling Haines a "True Freshman" technically correct but is a bit of a misnomer as he skipped his senior year and has been training with NLWC, David Taylor /M2 and PSU for the last couple of years. Edited March 8, 2023 by DocBB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbrog Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, DocBB said: Calling Haines a "True Freshman" technically correct but is a bit of a misnomer as he skipped his senior year and has been training with NLWC, David Taylor and PSU for the last year plus So why does that not make him a true freshmen? He didn't red/gray shirt...he didn't skip a year in terms of age...he is chronologically what is considered a true freshmen. Never understood trying to diminish someone. Anyway, Haines, hands down, best TRUE freshmen year...so far. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocBB Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 24 minutes ago, Bigbrog said: So why does that not make him a true freshmen? He didn't red/gray shirt...he didn't skip a year in terms of age...he is chronologically what is considered a true freshmen. Never understood trying to diminish someone. Anyway, Haines, hands down, best TRUE freshmen year...so far. I said he is. But he's had an extra year of college level training that others have not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbrog Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Just now, DocBB said: I said he is. But he's had an extra year of college level training that others have not. Ooops...haven't had my full compliment of caffeine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrassler Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Haines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragu Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 3 hours ago, DocBB said: Calling Haines a "True Freshman" technically correct but is a bit of a misnomer as he skipped his senior year and has been training with NLWC, David Taylor /M2 and PSU for the last couple of years. Probably about to happen with Zak Ryder next year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Haines did good at B1G. Let's see how well he does at NCAAs. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgaveMaria Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 8 hours ago, DocBB said: Calling Haines a "True Freshman" technically correct but is a bit of a misnomer as he skipped his senior year and has been training with NLWC, David Taylor /M2 and PSU for the last couple of years. If you have one who served a church missionary tour for two years and then a hitch in the military they could come in at 24-25 years old as a True Freshman. Even if they wrestled a ton of tournaments while in the service, maybe even on a service team. ” Never attribute to inspiration that which can be adequately explained by delusion”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanut Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) I believe #2 Haines (157) and #6 Cardenas (157) are the only true freshmen in the quarterfinals. Haines will face #7 Andonian, and Cardenas will face #3 Robb. #13 Mendez (133) and #4 Henson (149) are still alive in the consolation bracket. Edited March 17, 2023 by peanut 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 On 3/8/2023 at 9:20 AM, Bigbrog said: So why does that not make him a true freshmen? He didn't red/gray shirt...he didn't skip a year in terms of age...he is chronologically what is considered a true freshmen. Never understood trying to diminish someone. Anyway, Haines, hands down, best TRUE freshmen year...so far. Do u know his age? Is he 19 like rs freshman paniro Johnson? Just wondering since u made the age comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Do u know his age? Is he 19 like rs freshman paniro Johnson? Just wondering since u made the age commentHe was 17 when he graduated high school.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraTease Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, ScarletKnight said: Do u know his age? Is he 19 like rs freshman paniro Johnson? Just wondering since u made the age comment From the article below in 2021: " Many collegiate wrestlers redshirt at some point in their careers, and Haines said that's a possibility for him since he's young for his grade. He's still 16 and will graduate high school at 17." https://www.ydr.com/story/sports/high-school/wrestling/2021/05/24/penn-state-wrestling-biglervilles-levi-haines-makes-commitment/5241427001/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 So is he a false freshman? This designation is critical. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Carl, JB and John Smith all graduated HS @17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 How old will Cody Chittum be when he finally sets foot on a mat in an Iowa singlet? Is he a RS this year, or taking a gray shirt? Will he be 21 or 22? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Le duke said: How old will Cody Chittum be when he finally sets foot on a mat in an Iowa singlet? Is he a RS this year, or taking a gray shirt? Will he be 21 or 22? grey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Le duke said: How old will Cody Chittum be when he finally sets foot on a mat in an Iowa singlet? Is he a RS this year, or taking a gray shirt? Will he be 21 or 22? He will be 22 when he starts at Iowa. Pretty standard by now given how many Iowa guys finish their careers at age 25-27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 21 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: He will be 22 when he starts at Iowa. Pretty standard by now given how many Iowa guys finish their careers at age 25-27 And if he does 8 years like Jaron Smith, he will be a redshirt senior aged 30? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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