One8alpha Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Has it been debated/discussed to keep coaches off the mat corners during live wrestling like FS/GR? It seems this would be beneficial for all parties. It is difficult to keep composure will coaching. Some genetic battle instincts take over when coaching. Discuss 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Jimmy? Is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Energy Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 For some of the broadcasts you could so clearly hear the loud bellyaching and whining from the coaches. More so than usual. Not a good ‘sound.’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southend Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, Dark Energy said: For some of the broadcasts you could so clearly hear the loud bellyaching and whining from the coaches. More so than usual. Not a good ‘sound.’ Being in the stands, you don’t hear it much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One8alpha Posted March 7, 2023 Author Share Posted March 7, 2023 Some coaches are also continuously yapping and impeding the trail ref every time they come into proximity of their corner. I believe having them in an area where they cannot intimidate or influence the officiating would be beneficial. It is much more noticeable in the B10 and B12 compared to the ACC or EIWAS. Way more bricks being tossed and yapping in the midwest sans PSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tap-in-bogey Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 1 minute ago, One8alpha said: Some coaches are also continuously yapping and impeding the trail ref every time they come into proximity of their corner. I believe having them in an area where they cannot intimidate or influence the officiating would be beneficial. It is much more noticeable in the B10 and B12 compared to the ACC or EIWAS. Way more bricks being tossed and yapping in the midwest sans PSU. I wonder what Cael's win percentage is on bricks thrown. He rarely seems to toss one. I'm guessing when he does, he's pretty confident that he saw something different than the refs. Brands on the other hand, appears to wish he had two, so he could be even more emphatic with his brick barrage. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 I wonder what Cael's win percentage is on bricks thrown. He rarely seems to toss one. I'm guessing when he does, he's pretty confident that he saw something different than the refs. Brands on the other hand, appears to wish he had two, so he could be even more emphatic with his brick barrage.I think it’s actually Casey who is the main brick thrower for them. He’s gotta have one of the best percentages out there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 No. 2 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragit Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, nhs67 said: No. Nice - one word says it all. There would be other ways to remedy the mentioned problems (warning, then penalty, then ejection?). Taking coaches off the corner seems far too radical. And it would be bad for the spectators - one cool thing unique to wrestling is looking at the guys in the corners with Olympic medals and national championships. What's a better visual for the cameras to keep going back to -- the 159-0, gold medal guy with the sculpted physique, or Bill Belichik with his division 3 lacrosse varsity letter and his hoodie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 2 hours ago, One8alpha said: Has it been debated/discussed to keep coaches off the mat corners during live wrestling like FS/GR? It seems this would be beneficial for all parties. It is difficult to keep composure will coaching. Some genetic battle instincts take over when coaching. Discuss I think the genetic battle instincts must be a little rusty. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, dragit said: Nice - one word says it all. There would be other ways to remedy the mentioned problems (warning, then penalty, then ejection?). Taking coaches off the corner seems far too radical. And it would be bad for the spectators - one cool thing unique to wrestling is looking at the guys in the corners with Olympic medals and national championships. What's a better visual for the cameras to keep going back to -- the 159-0, gold medal guy with the sculpted physique, or Bill Belichik with his division 3 lacrosse varsity letter and his hoodie? My answer was in regards to the following, mate... 2 hours ago, One8alpha said: Discuss "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One8alpha Posted March 8, 2023 Author Share Posted March 8, 2023 19 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: I think the genetic battle instincts must be a little rusty. Genetic battle instincts are just that... Genetic. Some lead battle by screaming and war crying, while others lead with calmness and surgical precision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 28 minutes ago, One8alpha said: Genetic battle instincts are just that... Genetic. Some lead battle by screaming and war crying, while others lead with calmness and surgical precision. 51 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: I think the genetic battle instincts must be a little rusty. Some folks just don't look like they are having fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crotalus Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 I think it’s actually Casey who is the main brick thrower for them. He’s gotta have one of the best percentages out there. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkCael prefers to throw chairs when he disagrees with the call/outcome. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 I'd like to hear what Barry Davis has to say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3 for LU Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Removing coaches from the corner, eh? ((Giving referee's a break from all the hectoring & whining on calls made or not made?) I give you, Exhibit "A"... ... and Exhibit "A+1"... D3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, D3 for LU said: Removing coaches from the corner, eh? ((Giving referee's a break from all the hectoring & whining on calls made or not made?) I give you, Exhibit "A"... ... and Exhibit "A+1"... D3 Nailed it. His constant stall calls from the corner is rivaling Iowa. I swear he through like 7 bricks during the Kaylor Courtney match. Edited March 8, 2023 by Idaho Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warm Up Champ Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Maybe coaching harnesses? Each coach is required to wear one and they are attached to a solid object that is (fill in the blank) distance from the mat? After the match the coach unhooks their harness, holds the strap, and walks around the tournament with it on until their next wrestler is up. Repeat.... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 For years professional tennis coaches were not allowed to coach during a match. I think that may have loosened up recently though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boconnell Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 3 hours ago, One8alpha said: Has it been debated/discussed to keep coaches off the mat corners during live wrestling like FS/GR? It seems this would be beneficial for all parties. It is difficult to keep composure will coaching. Some genetic battle instincts take over when coaching. Discuss Good job addressing a non-problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpeltf Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 2 hours ago, D3 for LU said: Removing coaches from the corner, eh? ((Giving referee's a break from all the hectoring & whining on calls made or not made?) I give you, Exhibit "A"... ... and Exhibit "A+1"... D3 But he's never IN the corner! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKHUNTER Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 4 hours ago, One8alpha said: Genetic battle instincts are just that... Genetic. Some lead battle by screaming and war crying, while others lead with calmness and surgical precision. screaming can be done with ........."surgical precision" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraTease Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 5 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: I'd like to hear what Barry Davis has to say. I take it you are referring to the fact that Davis does not usually want to be in the corner and prefers to jump, sweat, stretch, gesticulate, cheer, curse, or swear with active mirror neurons from afar and often near the tunnel during NCAA matches when his guys are wrestling. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, SocraTease said: I take it you are referring to the fact that Davis does not usually want to be in the corner and prefers to jump, sweat, stretch, gesticulate, cheer, curse, or swear with active mirror neurons from afar and often near the tunnel during NCAA matches when his guys are wrestling. Just like wrestlers, seems like wrestling's greatest coaches have had a good handle on their strengths and weaknesses. Some coaches (like Cael) can sit and control it. Others (like Barry) find it helpful to get a little space to work it out. No judgment at all. Both are obviously great wrestlers and coaches. As much as I appreciated his fire, I respected Barry's unusual approach. Not every coach needs to be mat side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3 for LU Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 6 hours ago, gimpeltf said: But he's never IN the corner! Hmmm... dat's a truism! I propose seatbelts on the coaches chair... and having security pick him up an moving him into the lobby w/ closed circuit TV as his only view option. D3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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