Mr. PeanutButter Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Glory "demolishes" Ungar 2-0. Will he have the juice necessary to capitalize on Lee's shaky legs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Surprised to see the number one seed go down by upset. :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Blades Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Sometime seeding is not equal to results. Anyone predict that Cardenas would win over Beard? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3 for LU Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 ... touche' D3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Red Blades said: Sometime seeding is not equal to results. Anyone predict that Cardenas would win over Beard? A bunch of people in north Jersey did 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Blades Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 (edited) I'm curious what people think after the EIWA 165 lb final - who gets seeded higher, Ramirez or Monday (assuming the NCAAs do not use the EIWA Seeding Formula!) Edited March 6, 2023 by Red Blades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show_Me Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Red Blades said: Sometime seeding is not equal to results. Anyone predict that Cardenas would win over Beard? The biggest upset of the Finals. Curious to see how this result affects NCAA Seeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show_Me Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Red Blades said: I'm curious what people think after the EIWA 165 lb final - who gets seeded higher, Ramirez or Monday (assuming the NCAAs do not use the EIWA Seeding Formula!) Ramirez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugarles Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Show_Me said: Ramirez he beat him twice. i think this one is unambiguous. more interesting question is ramirez or griffith given Shane's loss in the Pac 12 final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, ugarles said: he beat him twice. i think this one is unambiguous. more interesting question is ramirez or griffith given Shane's loss in the Pac 12 final. Ramirez almost definitely will be ahead of griffith who has 2 loses to Oregon state kid and Caliendo from North Dakota state while his best wins are over caliendo and sheets from OSU who needs a wildcard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedFan Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said: Ramirez almost definitely will be ahead of griffith who has 2 loses to Oregon state kid and Caliendo from North Dakota state while his best wins are over caliendo and sheets from OSU who needs a wildcard Does it matter that Ramirez also beat Olguin this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 1 minute ago, BigRedFan said: Does it matter that Ramirez also beat Olguin this year? I think Ramirez should be ahead of both Olguin and Griffith in seedings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Blades Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 (edited) Previous Coaches Ranking, top 8: RANK NAME TEAM CONFERENCE POINTS 1 David Carr Iowa St. Big 12 396 2 Keegan O`Toole Missouri Big 12 384 3 Shane Griffith Stanford Pac 12 370 4 Quincy Monday Princeton EIWA 355 5 Cameron Amine Michigan Big Ten 340 6 Dean Hamiti Wisconsin Big Ten 336 7 Julian Ramirez Cornell EIWA 319 8 Patrick Kennedy Iowa Big Ten 312 It'll be interesting to see how much (if at all?) this changes. Coaches ranking is 15% in the criteria, head-to-head is 25%. I'm not sure I understand how this works as applied to the entire field, though. Edited March 6, 2023 by Red Blades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. PeanutButter Posted March 6, 2023 Author Share Posted March 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Red Blades said: Previous Coaches Ranking, top 8: RANK NAME TEAM CONFERENCE POINTS 1 David Carr Iowa St. Big 12 396 2 Keegan O`Toole Missouri Big 12 384 3 Shane Griffith Stanford Pac 12 370 4 Quincy Monday Princeton EIWA 355 5 Cameron Amine Michigan Big Ten 340 6 Dean Hamiti Wisconsin Big Ten 336 7 Julian Ramirez Cornell EIWA 319 8 Patrick Kennedy Iowa Big Ten 312 It'll be interesting to see how much (if at all?) this changes. Coaches ranking is 15% in the criteria, head-to-head is 25%. I'm not sure I understand how this works as applied to the entire field, though. It better freaking change or else the whole concept of a "coaches ranking" needs to change. 3-5 took losses this weekend. 6-8 should take their place 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Callo Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Clearly Carr is #1 but after that it is muddled. Does O’Toole stay at 2, and if so what about Hamiti and Ramirez? Then what about Griffith and Monday? I think if he were healthy Amine would be in the top 5 conversation - and what about Kharchla? I am sure there are others I left out - what a mess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedFan Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 There's a match in the EIWAs that has been deleted by Flo, and for good reason. Anyone want to venture a guess as to why it was deleted? It's something that I've never seen before in a match. (no, it isn't when McGonagle got hurt and was screaming in pain) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Wait what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. PeanutButter Posted March 6, 2023 Author Share Posted March 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, BigRedFan said: There's a match in the EIWAs that has been deleted by Flo, and for good reason. Anyone want to venture a guess as to why it was deleted? It's something that I've never seen before in a match. (no, it isn't when McGonagle got hurt and was screaming in pain) Don't leave us hanging, brother. Spill the beans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedFan Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Just now, Mr. PeanutButter said: Don't leave us hanging, brother. Spill the beans You got it! Well done! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. PeanutButter Posted March 6, 2023 Author Share Posted March 6, 2023 Just now, BigRedFan said: You got it! Well done! Huh, what does that mean? Are you saying there was exposed genitalia? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedFan Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Just now, Mr. PeanutButter said: Huh, what does that mean? Are you saying there was exposed genitalia? No. First pigtail match on Mat 3, apparently a guy threw up during the match (and defaulted). I didn't see it, but saw them spending a ton of time (maybe twenty minutes or more?) mopping up the mat and cleaning it. They must have some sanitation protocol for that. Threw off the schedule quite a bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker118 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 He did not throw up. It was an explosion coming from the other end. I kid you not. Very embarrassing for the kid who actually won his next match. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Did he cut n binge or was he actually sick? The former would help make a case for matside weigh-ins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. PeanutButter Posted March 6, 2023 Author Share Posted March 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Quaker118 said: He did not throw up. It was an explosion coming from the other end. I kid you not. Very embarrassing for the kid who actually won his next match. A different verb could have been used here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedFan Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, Quaker118 said: He did not throw up. It was an explosion coming from the other end. I kid you not. Very embarrassing for the kid who actually won his next match. Ew. Even worse. I feel bad for the kid. No wonder it took so long to clean the mat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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