Tripnsweep Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 I just saw a GoFundMe for Ismael Borneo. I guess he is in the US mow and going to be coaching Greco. Anyone else know if any others have defected to come here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchapman Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Alexis Vila, pride of Minkle-era MSU https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexis_Vila Craig Henning got screwed in the 2007 NCAA Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripnsweep Posted March 20, 2023 Author Share Posted March 20, 2023 On 3/1/2023 at 9:57 AM, jchapman said: Alexis Vila, pride of Minkle-era MSU https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexis_Vila I meant recently. I know Alan Vera defected a few years ago. Jesus Wilson before him. Haislan Garcia went to Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 How do they defect to the US without being deported by the US? "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 it is interesting how an illegal alien is "working" at USAW... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 How do they defect to the US without being deported by the US?Anyone who seeks asylum in the US must be granted a hearing, and pending a hearing, may be granted that asylum and become a legal resident.This is pretty basic stuff.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 This is true, but even without the hearing, they are legal residents as it is being exercised now. They don't have asylum but they can stay in the US until the hearing legally without being deported. They are supposed to show up for the hearing. According to recent studies, most do. But the backlog is immense. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 51 minutes ago, Le duke said: Anyone who seeks asylum in the US must be granted a hearing, and pending a hearing, may be granted that asylum and become a legal resident. This is pretty basic stuff. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Basic if you have ever cared to google it. Living in Miami I see more Cubans than I do English speaking Americans most weeks. That doesn't mean I googled if and how they might or might not be here legally or not legally. No reason or care to. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbane Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) Jesus Wilson represented Cuba at the 1993 World Championships. Defected to the US and attended Upper Iowa (D3). Nearly made a world team losing in the trials finals to Eric Guerrero 2 matches to 1. https://uiupeacocks.com/honors/upper-iowa-university-athletics-hall-of-fame/jesus-wilson/189 Lázaro Reinoso, John Smith's nemesis, also defected and wrestled D2 at Carson Newman. https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1994-05-14-9405130602-story.html Edited March 22, 2023 by fishbane 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDole Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Alberto Rodriguez defected during the 1996 Olympics. He never wrestled but has been coaching at a few different stops since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Yoel Romero defected I think. Not during wrestling but when he went MMA. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbane Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Didn't mention him earlier because it seemed obvious, but Frank Chamizo. Obviously he represents Italy internationally, but I believe he resides in NYC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbane Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) More recently Anthony Echemendia came to the US in high school. He wrestled for half a year in high school in AZ then change college commitment a few times before landing at Ohio State. I think he got beat out or was injured. Either way D'Emilio was the starter at his weight last year. This year he is no longer on the roster. There was also some legal issues for him last year related to alleged domestic violence at the start of last season. Edited March 23, 2023 by fishbane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scourge165 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 On 3/20/2023 at 6:27 PM, Le duke said: Anyone who seeks asylum in the US must be granted a hearing, and pending a hearing, may be granted that asylum and become a legal resident. This is pretty basic stuff. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I'm pretty sure it's different with Cubans. Johnson signed a bill in the 60's that allows Cubans who make it to the US to become citizens after a year in the Country...I believe. It's not the same as a refugee or immigrant coming up from a Latin American Country claiming asylum. It's much easier for Cubans. That's why the Cuban Gov't sent something like ~100,000 prisoners and people housed in mental health facilities to the US. Because they knew they wouldn't be sent back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scourge165 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 On 3/20/2023 at 5:39 PM, LJB said: it is interesting how an illegal alien is "working" at USAW... It's not that interesting; https://guides.loc.gov/latinx-civil-rights/cuban-adjustment-act Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykidsucks Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) In 1996, the U.S. government introduced the so-called "wet feet, dry feet policy" which limited the scope of the Act. The wet foot/dry foot policy was rescinded by President Obama at the end of his presidency in January 2017. The Cuban Adjustment Act (Ley de Ajuste Cubano) remains in force. Edited March 25, 2023 by mykidsucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadkilla Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Echemendia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Luchador Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 9:39 PM, scourge165 said: I'm pretty sure it's different with Cubans. Johnson signed a bill in the 60's that allows Cubans who make it to the US to become citizens after a year in the Country...I believe. It's not the same as a refugee or immigrant coming up from a Latin American Country claiming asylum. It's much easier for Cubans. That's why the Cuban Gov't sent something like ~100,000 prisoners and people housed in mental health facilities to the US. Because they knew they wouldn't be sent back. The Cuban boatlift. Resulted in some diversity that didn't make us better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scourge165 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 42 minutes ago, El Luchador said: The Cuban boatlift. Resulted in some diversity that didn't make us better. Did it? I never really heard much about what impact it had(other than the move Scarface). Just that there were a LOT of political prisoners and in reading a little more, ~15-20K of the 125K who came over or were "allowed" to leave were prisoners, but even then, there were some artists, and writers who were more political prisoners... Is THIS what created "Florida Man?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Luchador Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, scourge165 said: Did it? I never really heard much about what impact it had(other than the move Scarface). Just that there were a LOT of political prisoners and in reading a little more, ~15-20K of the 125K who came over or were "allowed" to leave were prisoners, but even then, there were some artists, and writers who were more political prisoners... Is THIS what created "Florida Man?" There we literally terrorists sent here, several spies and criminals. One of the biggest stories I vaguely remember was a prison riot. They literally took over a prison and had a standoff that went on for days. Of course not everyone was bad but to borrow from Trump we didn't get their best and brightest. I remember this time period when the news every night led with the Mariel boatlift. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scourge165 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, El Luchador said: There we literally terrorists sent here, several spies and criminals. One of the biggest stories I vaguely remember was a prison riot. They literally took over a prison and had a standoff that went on for days. Of course not everyone was bad but to borrow from Trump we didn't get their best and brightest. I remember this time period when the news every night led with the Mariel boatlift. Ok...I do vaguely remember seeing something about that. A few thousand prisoners were being sent back and they rioted to try and negotiate life in an American prison instead? I was(am) pretty ignorant about the entire subject other than knowing it happened and some anecdotes. https://apnews.com/article/9d151e5171e19990b9f251efb57275bf Can't say I blame Castro. After the 40th or 50th assassination attempt, he probably thought, "hey...I'm starting to think those American's don't like me." And then everyone with a useable skill kept fleeing Cuba and we just took them all in. So why not throw all the crazies and murders onto one boat and ship 'em over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scourge165 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 1 hour ago, El Luchador said: The Cuban boatlift. Resulted in some diversity that didn't make us better. Now...on another note. I was under the impression that with tensions seemingly easing between the two Countries, people were now allowed to leave Cuba and come to the United States. I didn't think they still HAD to defect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Luchador Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 27 minutes ago, scourge165 said: Now...on another note. I was under the impression that with tensions seemingly easing between the two Countries, people were now allowed to leave Cuba and come to the United States. I didn't think they still HAD to defect? That was my thought too, but I don't know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 4 hours ago, scourge165 said: I was(am) pretty ignorant about the entire subject other than knowing it happened and some anecdotes. It's like you've never seen, 'Scarface.' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scourge165 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 29 minutes ago, MPhillips said: It's like you've never seen, 'Scarface.' Oh...I already brought up Scarface! "I always tell the truth, even when I lie!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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