Jerry Callo Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Is it possible the EIWA pre-seeds are right? https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/10665644-eiwa-pre-seeds-released 1 - they have Ungar seeded ahead of Glory 2 - Zapf ahead of YIANNI 3 - Artalona ahead of Humphreys HUH???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Blades Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 That's some crazy stuff... I'm guessing some of this get's sorted out in the final seeding meeting, althought from a Cornell perspective - I can't say it's all bad, just silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice of the Quakers Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I'm guessing this is a points based system and that obvious errors - Yianni did beat Zapf in the dual - will be fixed. However, I for one am happy to see some punishment for wrestlers with few matches and obvious "ducks". Dan McDonald, Penn '93 danmc167@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedFan Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Jerry Callo said: Is it possible the EIWA pre-seeds are right? https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/10665644-eiwa-pre-seeds-released 1 - they have Ungar seeded ahead of Glory 2 - Zapf ahead of YIANNI 3 - Artalona ahead of Humphreys HUH???? Yeah, I just started looking at that. The only thing I can think of is that some of the crazy mis-seeds are due to lack of RPI. Glory doesn't have 15 matches at 125, nor does Yianni. So if they have some automagic ranking system, some guys get dinged for that? I saw Ungar ahead of Glory and I had to look further down to see if there was some other sorting algorithm in play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Artalona 23-5 Humphries 12-0 Won’t matter in the end, but it might wear on some strategists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu_alum Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 3 hours ago, BigRedFan said: ... Glory doesn't have 15 matches at 125, nor does Yianni. ... When was the last time Yianni competed at 125? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker118 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Unger was beaten badly by Miller at Cornell and he lost to Sotelo. I do not see where he is a one seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Offthemat said: Artalona 23-5 Humphries 12-0 Won’t matter in the end, but it might wear on some strategists. Don't know how Humphries could be 12-0 because I distinctly remember seeing Gfeller pin him at least twice. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Quaker118 said: Unger was beaten badly by Miller at Cornell and he lost to Sotelo. I do not see where he is a one seed. Well he did lose to a high school freshman, which as far as the model is concerned, is a double negative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedFan Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 1 hour ago, lu_alum said: When was the last time Yianni competed at 125? Aren't you funny... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 55 minutes ago, ionel said: Don't know how Humphries could be 12-0 because I distinctly remember seeing Gfeller pin him at least twice. Maybe that’s it. G didn’t pin Artalona this year, so that’d put him ahead of Humphries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 6 hours ago, Voice of the Quakers said: I'm guessing this is a points based system and that obvious errors - Yianni did beat Zapf in the dual - will be fixed. However, I for one am happy to see some punishment for wrestlers with few matches and obvious "ducks". Definitely needs to be fixed because the conference only has 2 bids at 149 and I don’t believe Eiwa is wrestling true 2nd matches , so whatever side yianni is on is a big deal to guys who need an auto bid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Callo Posted March 1, 2023 Author Share Posted March 1, 2023 10 hours ago, ionel said: Don't know how Humphries could be 12-0 because I distinctly remember seeing Gfeller pin him at least twice. FYI - According to Wrestle Stat Humphreys beat Gfeller 7-6 in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Jerry Callo said: FYI - According to Wrestle Stat Humphreys beat Gfeller 7-6 in November. Who you gonna believe? WS or your lying eyes? Or Ionel’s lying eyes? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, Offthemat said: Who you gonna believe? WS or your lying eyes? There ain't no way to hide your lyin' eyes... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Callo Posted March 1, 2023 Author Share Posted March 1, 2023 Did you know that song was not sung by “The Eagles”? The band’s name was just “Eagles”. irregardless - Humphreys - 157 - Lehigh - IS undefeated this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Jerry Callo said: FYI - According to Wrestle Stat Humphreys beat Gfeller 7-6 in November. Yeah but G pinned H twice first, in fact it might've been one of those elusive pin then fall combinations that Wkn likes to talk about, maybe the ref had never seen one before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 29 minutes ago, Offthemat said: Who you gonna believe? WS or your lying eyes? Or Ionel’s lying eyes? Heah now ... I saw it ... twice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 24 minutes ago, ionel said: Yeah but G pinned H twice first, in fact it might've been one of those elusive pin then fall combinations that Wkn likes to talk about, maybe the ref had never seen one before? Pin? Fall? Pin Fall? PINFALL. One word to rule them all. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRef Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Well rock beats scissors and I am not sure who sang a song about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Pin? Fall? Pin Fall? PINFALL. One word to rule them all. The ref call none of em! Have to assume he was from PA but trained with a very limited vocabulary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu_alum Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Definitely needs to be fixed because the conference only has 2 bids at 149 and I don’t believe Eiwa is wrestling true 2nd matches , so whatever side yianni is on is a big deal to guys who need an auto bid My understanding (from a Gimp post on the Lehigh forum) is that those seeds held form (Zapf #1, Yianni #2). Flo Arena still shows it that way, which he updates. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. PeanutButter Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 I don't hate it if it reduces ducking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 12 hours ago, Mr. PeanutButter said: I don't hate it if it reduces ducking. I'll go one step further from not hating it: I love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 7 hours ago, flyingcement said: I'll go one step further from not hating it: I love it 20 hours ago, Mr. PeanutButter said: I don't hate it if it reduces ducking. It would reduce ducking if that’s how they seeded ncaas but all this does is hurt guys at smaller schools in weight classes that don’t have many AQ spots 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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