CashingChecks25 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 I was thinking back on this topic from other forums, but nevertheless intrigued if others think of schools having wrestling as a Varsity sport would be sick. I would love to see Western Oregon University (D2) bring back wrestling. I think it would be very benefical and bring enthusiasm to the wrestling scene even more with Oregon State, Linfield (D3, revived this current wrestling season) and other NAIA schools that brought wrestling to the local region of the Pacific Northwest and beyond of having more opportunities as of late. There is some hard nosed talent over on that side of the nation that can really benefit saying close to home. Especially back to Western Oregon. The program was shut down due to Measure 5 of property taxes and ultimately because of it, the program was cut with 65 seasons of program history in 1991 with a few of those wrestlers actually making the national champions at that season. Hopefully the "Mat Men" come back sooner then later. Here a link of there history for those interested. Link: https://wou.edu/westernhowl/the-history-of-westerns-wrestling-program/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Callo Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Notre Dame, Syracuse and FSU come to mind. Â Is it a coincidence they would make the ACC a real 8-9 team conference? Â Perhaps, perhaps not. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PencilNeck Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 The obvious schools are USC and UCLA. They should not be allowed to join the Big Ten unless they can field varsity wrestling teams.  Overall, I think the trend of schools bringing back wrestling will continue, particularly at the lower end (d3, etc.). Seeing the increasing participation and recognition of girls wrestling is great. more colleges sponsoring women's wrestling, which will help the sport grow on the boys and men's side as well. Easier to invest in coaching and facilities when potentially double the number of athletes benefit. Also, with title ix concerns, it's good that there now exists a sport that can "balance" out wrestling (and it ends up being wrestling!).  I wonder what would happen if more top schools would follow Iowa's lead and invest in the women's side. the growth for wrestling as a whole could really explode. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Kong Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) Yale. (And Duke.) Edited February 16, 2023 by Major Kong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Luchador Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 BYU 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Luchador Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 And get Cael to coach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, Major Kong said: Yale. (And Duke.) Duke has a team, just not a good one. Â I'd go: Texas Georgia Georgia Tech Florida State Florida Miami Clemson Monmouth Kansas Kansas State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroud Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 San Jose State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Kong Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 48 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Duke has a team, just not a good one. Â I'd go: Texas Georgia Georgia Tech Florida State Florida Miami Clemson Monmouth Kansas Kansas State I know. That was a joke, just not a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11986 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 local selfishness says JMU, ODU, William & Mary, Virginia State and the various other programs that have been cut in Virginia. It has been very nice to see tremendous growth in Virginia at the D3 level though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Kong Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 51 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Duke has a team, just not a good one. Â I'd go: Texas Georgia Georgia Tech Florida State Florida Miami Clemson Monmouth Kansas Kansas State Monmouth absolutely. Seems obvious to everyone but the school. Miami I have a hard time picturing those kids in the room all winter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warm Up Champ Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 7 hours ago, CashingChecks25 said: I was thinking back on this topic from other forums, but nevertheless intrigued if others think of schools having wrestling as a Varsity sport would be sick. I would love to see Western Oregon University (D2) bring back wrestling. I think it would be very benefical and bring enthusiasm to the wrestling scene even more with Oregon State, Linfield (D3, revived this current wrestling season) and other NAIA schools that brought wrestling to the local region of the Pacific Northwest and beyond of having more opportunities as of late. There is some hard nosed talent over on that side of the nation that can really benefit saying close to home. Especially back to Western Oregon. The program was shut down due to Measure 5 of property taxes and ultimately because of it, the program was cut with 65 seasons of program history in 1991 with a few of those wrestlers actually making the national champions at that season. Hopefully the "Mat Men" come back sooner then later. Here a link of there history for those interested. Link: https://wou.edu/westernhowl/the-history-of-westerns-wrestling-program/ Never thought that when I opened this thread it would start with a post about Western!  I would love to see Western revive it's program, but here in Oregon I would much prefer the Ducks get their program up and running again. Portland State would be another one. The west needs D1 programs! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, 11986 said: local selfishness says JMU, ODU, William & Mary, Virginia State and the various other programs that have been cut in Virginia. It has been very nice to see tremendous growth in Virginia at the D3 level though. Go Dukes! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLCarnegieTech_1969 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Syracuse California, PA Slippery Rock, PA Temple, PA Notre Dame, IN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vsnej Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 9:56 AM, 1032004 said: Duke has a team, just not a good one. Â I'd go: Texas Georgia Georgia Tech Florida State Florida Miami Clemson Monmouth Kansas Kansas State Yeah, the SEC used to have some tough wrestling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treep2000 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 All of them... yes... all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bryant Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Yeah, the SEC used to have some tough wrestling...More of a myth than reality. The conference only sponsored for 9 years and Georgia and Alabama never had an All-American, while LSU and Tennessee saw their best years actually post-SEC sponsorship. Auburn had the longest history, but as a whole, the conference as a conference wasn’t very good. I can’t get at the stats right now but I looked at them a few days ago. Insert catchy tagline here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
de4856 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Boise St.  and Fresno St. need to be restored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manatree Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 9:29 AM, PencilNeck said: The obvious schools are USC and UCLA. They should not be allowed to join the Big Ten unless they can field varsity wrestling teams. Why? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpeltf Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Jason Bryant said: More of a myth than reality. The conference only sponsored for 9 years and Georgia and Alabama never had an All-American, while LSU and Tennessee saw their best years actually post-SEC sponsorship. Auburn had the longest history, but as a whole, the conference as a conference wasn’t very good. I can’t get at the stats right now but I looked at them a few days ago. My first year doing the computer work at NCAAs ('87) I was tasked to total up team scores per conference and divide into the total team scores save D2/D3 as the main method of allocating qualifiers for the next year. And I was asked to give my conclusions. A few years later they switched to a method counting up top 12s and doing the same. So that year, I totaled them up and noticed that between the Southern and SEC, one generated .4 qualifiers and the other .6. My conclusion that I gave them was to merge the two conferences and take the OW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chemo Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Syracuse would have to change their mascot though. At least for wrestling. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadkilla Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Oregon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitleIX is ripe for reform Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) Here's a related thread which analyzes why opportunities for reinstating (or otherwise adding) wrestling teams at the college level here in the USA are seemingly better now than they have been in decades.  This is due to legal reforms of Title IX (and other statutes) that have been increasingly emerging from the U.S. Supreme Court.  Essentially the Supreme Court is saying that statutes are to be taken at face value, and major questions are to be resolved by Congress instead of the bureaucrats.  All that Title IX says is the following. Notice the lack of gender quotas?  No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance.  Edited February 18, 2023 by TitleIX is ripe for reform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royalfan Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Omaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 13 hours ago, manatree said: Why? Because it would be good great for the sport and USC and UCLA will be able to support mens and womens wrestling under their new Big Ten media contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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