David Carr vs Keegan O'Toole 2/15

[Wrestleknownothing]

48 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

 

Oof. And I call myself a PSU fan

 

[Rassling]

O'Toole will not be beaten this year.

 

[D3UC157]

Or perhaps, the nary oft seen, double duck.

[bnwtwg]

2 hours ago, Rassling said:

O'Toole will not be beaten this year.

 

I’ll take that bet. I’ll even be so bold as to say it happens tomorrow night.

[MizzouFan01]

I could see the winner of the first match ducking the conference finals with a MFF. Won’t hurt seeding and still undefeated. 

[JLStock]

Well - Match is on Flo. Just hope we get to watch the match live

[1032004]

5 hours ago, MizzouFan01 said:

I could see the winner of the first match ducking the conference finals with a MFF. Won’t hurt seeding and still undefeated. 

I kinda hope this happens and the NCAA finally does something about MFF’s.  They could at least do something like counting a MFF as a loss only in the championship bracket.

[D3UC157]

6 hours ago, MizzouFan01 said:

I could see the winner of the first match ducking the conference finals with a MFF. Won’t hurt seeding and still undefeated. 

Is that you Coach Smith?

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

12 hours ago, D3UC157 said:

Or perhaps, the nary oft seen, double duck.

Speaking of which, I have been privileged to spend some time with Nate Carr, Sr.  Amazing duck series!

 

Edited February 15, 2023 by Interviewed_at_Weehawken

[Gus]

Is there a history of KOT or Carr ducking any top tier opponents? Both guys seems like warriors that are supremely confident in their abilities. I cannot imagine being as good as Carr or KOT (NCAA Champions & Jr World Champions) and wanting to sit out against the best guys. I don't think that KOT or Carr are wired that way. They both seem very humble, grounded and find their identity in their faith - not winning or losing. 

[bnwtwg]

45 minutes ago, Gus said:

Is there a history of KOT or Carr ducking any top tier opponents? Both guys seems like warriors that are supremely confident in their abilities. I cannot imagine being as good as Carr or KOT (NCAA Champions & Jr World Champions) and wanting to sit out against the best guys. I don't think that KOT or Carr are wired that way. They both seem very humble, grounded and find their identity in their faith - not winning or losing. 

No. As a matter of fact, Kevin Dresser and his team will take on all comers. It doesn't matter if they are 4th string teammates because the Cyclones never back down! They will keep fighting down to The Last Chance!

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

5 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

No. As a matter of fact, Kevin Dresser and his team will take on all comers. It doesn't matter if they are 4th string teammates because the Cyclones never back down! They will keep fighting down to The Last Chance!

Interesting pairings at that tournament, as well.

[Tigerfan]

6 hours ago, Gus said:

Is there a history of KOT or Carr ducking any top tier opponents? Both guys seems like warriors that are supremely confident in their abilities. I cannot imagine being as good as Carr or KOT (NCAA Champions & Jr World Champions) and wanting to sit out against the best guys. I don't think that KOT or Carr are wired that way. They both seem very humble, grounded and find their identity in their faith - not winning or losing. 

You seem to be making the erroneous assumption that all these ducks recently are driven by the wrestler’s preferences. They most assuredly are not. The coaches alone make these ducking decisions. KOT, Carr, or the 75th ranked guy, doesn’t matter, they all want to compete against the best. Only coaches play these games. 

[PortaJohn]

1 hour ago, Tigerfan said:

You seem to be making the erroneous assumption that all these ducks recently are driven by the wrestler’s preferences. They most assuredly are not. The coaches alone make these ducking decisions. KOT, Carr, or the 75th ranked guy, doesn’t matter, they all want to compete against the best. Only coaches play these games. 

The wrestlers play the game along with the coaches.  

[buckshot]

I'm kind of excited for this one, really looking forward to streaming it. 

Edited February 15, 2023 by buckshot

[ionel]

6 minutes ago, buckshot said:

I'm kind of excited for this one, really looking forward to streaming it. 

darn flo! 

[uncle bernard]

10 hours ago, Gus said:

Is there a history of KOT or Carr ducking any top tier opponents? Both guys seems like warriors that are supremely confident in their abilities. I cannot imagine being as good as Carr or KOT (NCAA Champions & Jr World Champions) and wanting to sit out against the best guys. I don't think that KOT or Carr are wired that way. They both seem very humble, grounded and find their identity in their faith - not winning or losing. 

Like others said, it's the coaches, not them. For example, Smith held KOT out of the scuffle where he could have hit Griffith. 

[fishbane]

Carr is 84-2 for his career and O'Toole is 56-1, combined 140-3 (0.979) with one title a piece.  

Dake and Taylor: Taylor was 70-1 with one title and Dake 100-4 with three titles at their first meeting (All Star).  Combined 170-5 (.971).

[Wrestleknownothing]

133

Redding ISU Brown Mizz

Missed the start, but a long scramble ends with Redding getting the TD. Brown out after about 30 secs. Period 1 ends 2-1

Brown starts 2 on top. Erased RT and Redding is out. 3-1. Minute left. Redding in deep, gets the TD 5-1. Refs stop the action to go to the monitor.

Edited February 16, 2023 by Wrestleknownothing

[Crotalus]

1 minute ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

133

Redding ISU Brown Mizz

Missed the start, but a long scramble ends with Redding getting the TD. Brown out after about 30 secs. Period 1 ends 2-1

No you've got me trying to follow two threads. Haha.

[Dark Energy]

Wow wow wow.  Carr looked awesome!! Solid win.  Won TD battle and rode Keegan with seeming ease.  Wow.

[VakAttack]

Carr was flawless, incredibly impressive. 

[SocraTease]

Wow, so much for the crowd vote for KOT, who didn't have much for Carr tonight.   Surprised me that he couldn't escape 

[Gus]

Carr looks like a big 165 at this point in the season. His length presented a lot of challenges for KOT. 

[PortaJohn]

Hi Fiving my fellow 27.27% that picked Carr