mspart Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Any of you heard of this? https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/03/china-spy-balloon-us-airspace-00081073 Should it be brought down now? Or should it not? My input is to bring it down now and quit waiting. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 What are the consequences of shooting it down? I'd love to know what is in the balloon, but I would also not like an outcome where this leads to war. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Any of you heard of this? https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/03/china-spy-balloon-us-airspace-00081073 Should it be brought down now? Or should it not? My input is to bring it down now and quit waiting. mspartWhy shoot it down when you can collect on it?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 What are the consequences of shooting it down? I'd love to know what is in the balloon, but I would also not like an outcome where this leads to war.Loss of intelligence opportunities, mostly. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 It feels like our leadership is compromised. If they are, I’d hope they’d shoot it down anyway, make a patriotic speech and let the chips fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 It feels like our leadership is compromised. If they are, I’d hope they’d shoot it down anyway, make a patriotic speech and let the chips fall.Why would they shoot it down?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Why would they shoot it down?Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWell for one, to see if our leadership is compromised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Well for one, to see if our leadership is compromised.Huh? How would shooting it down prove that, or not?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Sorry if you have no imagination. I am done for tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 The chinese forced aircraft of ours in their airspace to land and be held hostage. This is a fact and they know it. Bringing down their balloon should not rile them at all. They should expect it. Perhaps they are trying to get a feel for what they can and cannot get away with. By not bringing it down immediately in whatever manner is best, we are signalling that we will tolerate chinese incursions of our airspace. Which might invite more such episodes. Why would we not bring it down, either by shooting it down or by some other means? This is basic national defense. They think they have jammed any signals that it might transmit and that is enough? If that is the case, then this is a spy machine and an overt act. I don't see why we condone such a thing. Bring it down. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Why can’t we bring it down without destroying it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psikeyhackr Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 The record glider altitude is 76,000 ft. Could something be designed to puncture the balloon and parachute everything down slowly enough to minimize damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crotalus Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 "We're going to take care of it." - Biden shortly before the balloon was shot down over the Atlantic where it won't cause damage to person or property and can potentially be recovered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted February 6, 2023 Author Share Posted February 6, 2023 Needed to get Tom Cruise out there and hop on the balloon and bring it down. He could jump out of an F22 with his extreme good aim. It took an F22 to bring it down? Seems like a lesser fighter could have handled it. I read an article that the F22 shot a heat seaking missile. What the heck was generating heat? I thought it was helium, not hot air. Oh well, it is down and now the frog men have to locate and bring it up. Any guesses? I'm guessing it is just as the Chinese said, it was a weather balloon with 3 semi trucks worth of equipment. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted February 7, 2023 Author Share Posted February 7, 2023 That might work. Needs a little more power than the bow can give but the right idea. Maybe have Tom Cruise shoot one of those on a fly by!! mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 You’d think after a week of planning, we could’ve popped the balloon and retrieved the equipment, but someone must have wanted the equipment blown to smithereens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Luchador Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 I'm no balloon expert but this doesn't make sense. China isn't our friend. We are literally funding our enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crotalus Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 I heard George Santos shot it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Luchador Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 This is Bidens only plan for fighting inflation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted February 7, 2023 Author Share Posted February 7, 2023 7 hours ago, Crotalus said: I heard George Santos shot it down. He's lying!! Ha mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted February 7, 2023 Author Share Posted February 7, 2023 19 hours ago, headshuck said: You’d think after a week of planning, we could’ve popped the balloon and retrieved the equipment, but someone must have wanted the equipment blown to smithereens. With a supersonic fighter no less. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Luchador Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 They wanted to give China 1 good look at the F22 in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 Monitoring radio spectrum jamming techniques may be a goal of China in these endeavors. That is something I would do. They certainly learned something when they flew by undetected! I also thought they would shoot it down with bullets, but they didn't. It looked like the surveillance equipment separated intact. They will have collected most of that by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted February 8, 2023 Author Share Posted February 8, 2023 Which is why the question persists - Why did they allow it to fly all the way across the USA? China maybe got what they wanted by that inaction. It should have been brought down much sooner in my opinion, like when it was found over Alaska. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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